Thermoelectric Generators

Chip Fetrow tacos at
Tue Dec 11 04:04:47 CST 2012

Well, most people don't prepare at all.  Not at all.  I basically feel  
they deserve to freeze or starve.

They don't even have a dozen AA cells in the freezer or 'fridge.

You have got to wonder.

I have only a 2 kVA Honda Inverter generator.  It runs mostly  
everything I need except the HVAC.  Still, I have had neighbors come  
buy to ask to plug in cell phone chargers.  I not only allow it but I  
give them an outlet strip.  I allow as many to plug is as appear.  I  
have dozens of outlet strips as a result of decommisioning a radio  
network, so iI could likely accomidate a hundred chargers.  It would  
be a real mess on the front porch.  I don't recall more than six  
plugging into the generator.

I plan to get a 40 kVA generator for the entire house.  Of course, my  
wife and I need to become employeed, a problem for both of us right  
now.  However once we have jobs and don't have to worry about the  
bills, I will install a 40 kVA generator and put two or three 10  
Ampere outlets on it for those living closest to us.  Hey, they need  
to live with the noise, even though I plan to buy a low noise gen-set.

They can plug in there 'fridge or some other low load.  If they want  
to plug in something larger, the breaker will trip.

HEY, IT IS FEE.  Get over it.


On Dec 10, 2012, at 1:00 PM, tacos-request at wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:56:26 -0500
> From: Richard O'Neill <richardoneill at>
> To: Tacos AMRAD <tacos at>
> Subject: Thermoelectric Generators
> "They were actually using these in NYC shelters to charge things like
> cellphones after Sandy. They apparently work pretty well."
> Mark,
>  So, these devices do have some practicality after all, at least in  
> an urban environment - following a major calamity. Can you direct me  
> to any links that describe their use following Sandy's passage?  
> Personally, in that sort of situation I'd place far higher priority  
> on obtaining shelter, potable water and food than recharging a cell  
> phone. My, how times have changed. I suppose these devices are now  
> considered essential for urban folks used to a daily reliance on them.
>  I can see where such a puny power source such as this could be a  
> life saver for those otherwise unprepared for an infrastructure  
> collapse. Few really are. However, the fact that these devices  
> require three to five hours of burn time to recharge a cell phone  
> seems pitifully inadequate for all but the most dire circumstances -  
> which did exist for so many for far longer than they ever expected.  
> The Boy Scout motto about always being prepared is still good advice.
> Richard

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